Two remarks by candidates Romney and 0bama to their respective donors — one from 0bama four years ago and now we have a remark from Romney showing a dislike for anyone who intends to vote for 0bama. Romney’s remarks contains one sentence that goes to his Mormon religion. Obama’s remark first and then Romney’s.
Four years ago 0bama made some remarks to a group of rich donors and someone made a recording.
“You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them,” Obama said. “And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
What does Romney have to say about people who are voting for 0bama — words in bold are the ones that concern me the most.
There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.
Romney went on: “[M]y job is is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”
So the 0bama voters who have lost their jobs due perhaps because they were a victim of Romney’s Bain Vultures. Some of the jobless aren’t working because their jobs have been out sourced overseas — well it was because they didn’t “take personal responsibility and care for their lives.” He has the nerve to slam Americans who need help and tells his donors who pay far less in taxes as a percentage of their income, that this 47% pay no taxes! Oh and Harry Reid, a Senator from Nevada says that he has information that Romney didn’t pay taxes (due to loop holes written for the very rich) for many years. Could this be why Mitt Romney refuses to release his tax records to “those people” (meaning we the people).
David Corn of Mother Jones has more of Romney’s uncensored remarks here.
Religion does matter in this election, because Romney’s Mormon religion training has embedded a deep dislike and disrespect for the majority of Americans. According to the Mormon teaching anyone who does not worship the God in The Book of Mormon is a worshiper of Satan. There is a strong sense of US vs THEM taught to all Mormons. Mormons are of god — everyone else is of Satan.
Romney’s religion is so much a part of who he is, that he is unable to empathize with most Americans.
There are many Mormons who are not anything like Romney — they have great empathy for others. Most Mormons are not in the upper 1% and most have not lived a highly privileged life. Mitt Romney’s father was one of the caring Mormons who could see that we are all humans.
Two books by ex-Mormons can give us insight into Romney’s faith and religion, An American Fraud, One Lawyer’s Case Against Mormonism by Kay Burningham and the other book is My Kingdom Come by Ed Decker. Decker’s book explains in detail how the Mormon’s theology is very different from Orthodox Christian’s theology. Decker was a Mormon priest for many years before converting and becoming an Evangelical Christians. Kay Buningham was raised in the Mormon religion and life style until she left the Mormon church. She was married to two Mormon men (serial monogamy, of course) so she understands the ingrained misogyny of the Mormon males.
Although I won’t be voting for 0bama, I would never ever vote for Mittens Romney. I made a chart to compare three candidates — Romney, 0bama and Jill Stein. Romney ended up with far too many negative points — two of the major deciders against voting Romney are: Romney’s high position in his church (meaning that the church dogma is deeply ingrained) and the fact that the Mormons deeply believe that the fable of the End Times will actually happen as prophet Joseph Smith tells his faithful followers. Oh . . . I’m adding the fact that Romney doesn’t like me (I’m a feminist and retired and won’t vote for him) to Romney’s score card.
Thankfully I live in a solid blue state and I have the option to vote for the most qualified candidate — Jill Stein of the Green Party.
The only way to have another voting option is to vote third party. Today our choice is Republican light — 0bama. Republican hard right –Romney and several third party options. Put another way — our choices are dictated by the top 1% who currently are allowed to buy politicians.
Update 5:45 pm Pacific time
The quote above by Romney about the 47% who are lock solid 0bama voters is being covered in the blog universe. Many feel that this is the tipping point that flushes Romney’s run for the Presidency. Last week it was Romney’s ill timed remarks in regards to an “apology” given by the Cairo US embassy about the nasty YouTube video trailer which had inflamed radical elements who respect the holy prophet of the Muslim Islamic religion.
This is all happening before the “debates” — where either or both candidates can make a major misstatement.
What happens when Americans who consider themselves to be authentic Christians discover that the standard bearer for the Republicans believes that only LDS or Mormon’s — The Book of Mormon — is the real path to heaven and is the real word of God? In recent years the Mormon church has been on a mission to accepted as part of mainstream Christians. Yet their own holy book of Mormon says otherwise.
I’m no longer a member of any organized religion — but I was raised in the Seventh Day Adventist religion. From my religious training in the SDA I understand the theological differences between the Mormon theology and what Ed Decker (My Kingdom Come) calls Orthodox Christian theology. One major teaching of the SDA theology is the separation of Church and State and respect for other religions — Religious Liberty. Joseph Smith the prophet and master mind of the LDS- Mormon church did not believe in the separation of church and state. Just before Joseph Smith’s death he was a candidate for President of the US. LDS have the right to religious liberty and to believe their theology. As with any religion — individuals either born into the religion or converted are human beings — some good and some not so good. The problems develop when the over zealous believers try to force their world view on the their neighbors and the world.
Forcing one religion, one theology, one church on all of the USA would be a violent undertaking. Which is why the Founding Fathers added the separation of church and state in the US Constitution. Religious wars are nasty and real people die or are harmed by religious zealots. History is full of stories about religious wars in the name of one god or the other. The more time I spend learning about the Mormon theology the more I am convinced that a Romney presidency would be a very sad chapter in the history of this Nation. Unfortunately Romney offers no improvements over 0bama’s record. Romney’s leadership record — both corporate and as Governor are really sad — full of greed and ego and very little empathy or understanding of anyone else.
Mormons have every right to their theology as do other people who believe in a different theology (also freedom from religion). In an ideal world the religious theology of political candidates shouldn’t matter. But in this Nation at this point in time — when minority right wing religious groups are trying to force their particular brand of religious dogma on the majority — in this election –the Religion of the candidates matters a great deal.