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Raw data — US taxpayers — Israel

The Guardian’s newest chapter in the reality novel called — Snowdon’s latest mind blowing details of how the USG considers We the People the enemy — is about NSA’s close relationship with Israel. TechDirt.com as usual has a thing or three to say about the latest escapades of NSA — the comments are a mixture of shock, disgust and humor.

TechDirt dishes the dirt and comes to the point immediately:

The main difference here is that Israel is receiving raw (unminimized) intelligence data from the NSA. Anything the agency has swept up — including data on American citizens — is being handed over to Israel’s intelligence, restriction-free.

Our stuff, our privacy, our thoughts and words have been given away to a foreign country — who knows how many people’s stuff is involved? At this moment I am NOT feeling charitable to the damned Israel spy creeps. Go fight your own damned wars — use your own damned money and your own damned troops — leave we the people out of your damned blood feuds going back centuries. Your Bible sucks big time. /end rant — I feel so much better! Why should we ever believe any of the spy garbage that Israel hand off about anything in the Middle East — they have an agenda and they are willing to do absolutely anything to get what they want including identity theft. Fake passports and paying bills — identity theft? Remember — this is about spies and spy agencies and the Government leaders who are allowing them to run wild — NOT repeat NOT the people of any country mentioned.

TechDirt continues to educate us about how BAD this raw data dump really is:

This deal with the NSA’s Israeli counterpart commenced in 2009. The memorandum continually stresses the privacy protections afforded to American data caught in the dragnet, but the program itself undermines these warnings by providing Israel’s intelligence officers with raw data. Nothing in the document implies any sort of legal repercussions for any abuse of American data, which gives the program the appearance of a gentlemen’s agreement. Considering intelligence work isn’t really the best fit for honorable “gentlemen,” the lack of any enforcement measures implicitly allows Israeli intelligence free rein to handle data on American citizens however it pleases.

The NSA doesn’t deny it hands over raw data to Israel (how could it at this point?) but the unnamed spokesperson again makes the (unsupported) claim that the data is handled responsibly and protected from abuse.

Read the rest — I read this article to a computer Engineer friend of mine — he got physically ill and asked me to stop reading. Many computer Engineers at some point in their careers deal with classified data — either business secrets and/or military secrets. As expected many techie types responded to this article. I’ve got to add this bit — plus be sure to read the “memorandum of Understanding” document between the two spy groups.

The NSA grabs more than it needs and shares this largesse with Israeli intelligence (and other nations), offering only minimal restrictions which are largely unenforceable. And it continues to do this despite “trust issues” and a declining return-on-investment. Furthermore, it allows Israeli intelligence to share this data with “outside parties” (with written permission from the NSA), provided it strips out personally-identifiable information. Again, this agreement to strip out identifiable info relies on trust rather than enforcement procedures, which doesn’t exactly inspire confidence considering the NSA’s on-record complaint about “trust issues.”

It is absolutely clear that the NSA’s word can not be trusted. The people in charge in command should be brought up on giving data to the enemy — before anyone starts calling me antisemitic — shut the fuck up and read the US enemy list from the NSA files — Israel is listed as an enemy. I personally do not think that the people of Israel are the enemy — like any country there are good people and bad people. It seems like it is the leaders and the spy agencies are what is rotten in a whole lot of countries.

Here’s the comment that matched my reaction to the latest Snowdon NSA b o m b  shell — but this guy or gal says it better:

Anonymous CowardSep 11th, 2013 @ 12:17pm


I’m surprised that nobody has pointed out how HUGE this is.Apparently, the NSA is giving confidential communications from within our own government to a foreign power. This data presumably includes things like members of Congress discussing our foreign policy towards the Middle East. The only oversight is telling the Israelis to delete it, if they’re reading it and happen to notice who it’s from.

This policy is fundamentally insane. If a foreign agency was caught collecting internal government communications at this level, it would be the single biggest intelligence failure in the history of this country. And the NSA is apparently handing the data over, without filtering, and their security is ASKING NICELY that the Israelis don’t abuse it?

Yes this news is very big and it is very BAD — blackmail? Corporate spying? You name it — the possibilities are endless. This drop of the centipede’s shoe was not expected. This “deal” that NSA has with Israel appears to be a one way deal. I wonder why? We are paying Billions and Billions of dollars that could be used for so many other things — or if the spy budget were reduced to a reasonable level then perhaps we the people would have a few more dollars in our pockets in order to buy stuff to put Americans back to work. That’s a thought — create demand for stuff and put people back to work.

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