Who owns the stories in the Bible?

That would be the Christian Bible with all its flaws

This is a continuation of the discussion of the End of Timer’s lust for war in Syria

Onward Christian Soldiers marching off to war . . . .

Some of us have been well educated in Biblical History and have studied the Bible — both Old and New Testaments — mostly King James version in Sunday schools and Sabbath schools as part of Bible Studies and as part of a Fundamentalist Christian School education or merely a garden variety middle of the road Christian sect. But my bet is that most people haven’t really read the Bible — with all its warts and contradictions. However, this Christian Bible is being used by some people who could be criminally insane, in their zombie march to the endless war. This Bible is being used by the apocalyptic end of timers who have a vision about how they will take over the earth with the help of their God.

Chris Hedges is one guy who knows his Bible — backward and forward. His book — American Fascists — has some of the more darker passages of the Bible — ones that most people haven’t read or deny that such nasty things could be in the Bible. One of my favorite books explaining the Bible is called “The Woman’s Bible” by Elizabeth Cady Stanton (E.C.S.) — parts of the Old Testament are so foul that Ms. Stanton wouldn’t even comment. (This book is free for Kindle owners — a must read to understand where the Patriarchy is coming from.) E.C.S. writes:

“The Bible teaches that women brought sin and death into the world, that she precipitated the fall of the race, that she was arraigned before the judgment seat of Heaven, tried, condemned and sentenced. Marriage for her was to be a condition of bondage, maternity a period of suffering and anguish, and in silence and subjection, she was to play the role of a dependent on man’s bounty for all her material wants, and for all the information she might desire on the vital questions of the hour, she was commanded to ask her husband at home. Here is the Bible position of women briefly summed up.” The woman’s Bible.

. . . . When, in the early part of the Nineteenth Century, women began to protest against their civil and political degradation, they were referred to the Bible for an answer. . .

Women have no voice in the canon law, the catechisms, the church creeds and discipline, and why should they obey the behests of a strictly masculine religions, that places the sex at a disadvantage in all life’s emergencies? . . .

E.C.S.’s Commentary on Deuteronomy X

The sacred fabulist [sic fable-ist? or story teller]  has failed to give us any choice examples in which the Jews executed just judgements for widows or fatherless girls; on contrary in all their dealings with women of all ranks, classes and ages they were merciless and unjust.” (Kindle location 1769)

As to the stranger, their chief occupation was war and wholesale slaughter, not only of the men on the battlefield, but of innocent women and children, destroying their cities and making their lands desolate. A humane person reading these books for the first time without any glamour of divine inspiration, would shudder at the cruelty and blush at their obscenity.

Those who can make these foul facts illustrate beautiful symbols must have genius of a high order.”

This passage written by Elizabeth Cady Stanton in about 1895 describes the horror and disgust I had while reading the murder and slaughter described in Deuteronomy. Rape and murder. My take away from reading that part of the Bible was that God really hated females and God loves war and ordering the killing anyone not of the Chosen People. It was a relief to know that years before I was born that other women took exception to the way women and girls were treated by the Chosen People.

More Deuteronomy commentary from E.C.S.

In the early chapters of this book Moses’ praises of Hebrew valor in marching into a land already occupied and utterly destroying men, women, and children, seems much like the rejoicing of those who believe in exterminating the aborigines in America. Evidently Moses believed in the survival of the fittest and that his own people were the fittest. He teaches the necessity of exclusiveness, that the hereditary traits of the people may not be lost by intermarriage.

Now for Chris Hedges views on the violence of Deuteronomy of the Old Testament :

Church leaders must denounce the biblical passages that champion apocalyptic violence and hateful political creeds. They must do so in the light of other biblical passages that teach a compassion and tolerance, often exemplified in the life of Christ, which stands opposed to bigotry and violence. Until this happens the Christians churches wade into the debate, these biblical passages will be used by bigots and despots to give sacred authority to their calls to subjugate or eradicate the enemies of God. This literature in the biblical canon keeps alive the virus of hatred, whether dormant or active, and the possibility of apocalyptic terror in the name of God. The steady refusal by churches to challenge the canonical authority of these passages means these churches share some of the blame. . . “Silent complicity with apocalyptic rhetoric soon becomes collusion with plans for religiously inspired genocide.” [Theologian Richard Fenn quoted by Chris Hedges.]

“As long as scripture,blessed and accepted by the church, teaches that at the end of time there will be a Day of Wrath and Christians will control the shattered remnant of a world cleansed through violence and war, as long as it teaches that all nonbelievers will be tormented, destroyed and banished to hell, it will be hard to thwart the message of apocalyptic preachers or assuage the fears of the Islamic world that Christians are calling for its annihilation.

There is enough hatred, bigotry and lust for violence in the pages of the Bible to satisfy anyone bent on justifying cruelty and violence.

A comment was left on an earlier blog about my  description of the God of the Old Testament and his Blood/War lust.  She pointed out that one of the Ten Commandments is “Thou Shalt not Kill/Murder” (depending on the translation.) Apparently the lust for war over rides God’s law.

“There are three separate and different versions of the 10 Commandments (Exodus 20, Exodus 34, and Deuteronomy 5).”

Some of the murders ordered by God. “To liberate the children of Israel, God orders the firstborn in every Egypt house killed so all will know “that the Lord makes a distinction between the Egyptians and Israel” (Exodus 11:7).

“Women throughout the Bible are subservient to men, often without legal right, and men are free to sell off their daughters into sexual bondage (Exodus 21:7-11). [This is but one example of rape in the Bible.]

Whose God is this God of the Bible? Comments on the New Testament by Chris Hedges again:

Hatred of Jews and other non- Christians pervades the Gospel of John (3:18-20). Jews he wrote, are children of the devil, the father of lies (John 8:39 – 44).

The apocalyptic end of times that the extreme Christians Fundamentalists are pushing for is found in Revelations. It has been suggested by many people who have tried to get through the descriptions of the blood and gore of the book of Revelations that the author(s) must have been high on some sort of hallucinogenic drug.

So which group of religious fanatics really owns the Bible?


4 Responses

  1. Let us take one example, Exodus 21, here is a discussion of that verse http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/world/middleeast/israel-backs-limited-strike-against-syria.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 This discussion is from the Chasidic Chabad movement. A female servant is actually treated BETTER than her male counterpart. For a discussion of the Garden of Eve story from a liberal, Reform rabbi, you could read the first chapter of “God was in this place, and I, i did not know it” by Lawrence Kashdan. I really don’t have the time or inclination to find discussions of each separate verse, but I will tell you that the wars against various peoples are a metaphor for the destruction of evil. The larger point is that the Jewish Written Bible can only be understood by reading the Oral Law and Commentary. You could join a Daf Yomi group and finish in about seven and a half years. http://yaacovlozowick.blogspot.co.il/2007/08/jewish-learning.html

  2. All any women needs to read is the “Woman’s Bible” by Elizabeth Cady Stanton.

    The Patriarchy will do anything to keep their hold over women — the Patriarchy is harmful to men as well. I am not interested in hearing or reading anymore junk about male religious thoughts. Enough is enough.

    Patriarchy based religions are not women friendly — and they never can be. Their male god is a myth.

    Personally I like the Hawaiian gods — if I had to choose a mythology.

  3. God has no substance or form according to both Judaism and Islam. So the concept of a male, female or hermaphrodite God makes no sense. Both the Bible and Koran were extremely progressive for their times. The ancient middle east was patriarchal, but to blame either the bible or the Koran for that condition demonstrates an ignorance of history. To say that one is not interested in hearing or reading about something one then criticizes is…well the word chutzpah comes to mind.

  4. The Patriarchy based religions are only HALF of a religion — those that worship the male — The Patriarchy merely took older religions and stripped the female half out and reinvented new religion.

    Most so called primitive world views have a balanced world view and a male female diety balance.

    Humans are hardwired for religion or spirituality (google humans hardwired for religion).

    The Catholic church attempted to balance their pathetic religious dogma by stealing the goddess and transforming her into the Virgin Mary — giving women someone to pray to — while the church got very rich on the offerings. The Protestants weren’t any more positive about women’s place in their off branch of the Patriarchy based religions.

    If you want a more accurate history read this
    A Zeitgeist commentary

    Millions of women have been tortured and murdered in the name of the one GOD. This god does not exist. It is a big lie — invented by the ancient cult who hated women and were determined to dominate women. The inventors of the Patriarchy religion were very sick men.

    It is time to end the Patriarchal dominated religions and redraw major world religions to INCLUDE women and even turn the “holy ghost” into the goddess — or something female positive.

    The Patriarchy is NOT and has Never been nor will it ever be FEMALE positive. The very name Patriarchy excludes women.

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